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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no idea!!

(I like this storyline, it's making me have ideas. XD)

Let's say the goverment keeps very powerful skytouched imprisoned to keep them from being a threat. Raphael could be one of these.

It'd be an awesome way of turning the tables if for the first part of the story, the vigilantes are heavily outnumbered and don't seem like they could possibly win at all. We could even drive them down to the point where the readers are like "But but, how;s this gonna end, there's no way for them to win!!"

And then introduce a set of characters who are extremely powerful but just imprisoned who actually event he scales. *nod*

Hmm... that sounded cooler in my head. :/

Also, I think we should introduce the characters and then go on witht he plot as quick as we can without rushing or leaving out details. I'm not sure, but I think if this takes too long to make, we may lose interest after like... a year or so. <.<;; After all, it's something that 1/6th of the time, you're not working on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa, thats an awesome idea. Good one Rei Very Happy\

...okay, I think i got it, reading over all the posts. It's just...@_@ everythings so unorganized at this point I guess.

Idea I think I'll um explode this clumpy lil thread and put to use the whole thread. watch out.

EDIT: okay~ I made a character list topic, so we can have a neat list of all the Hypernova characters Very Happy

Also, like Rei said-

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I think we should introduce the characters and then go on with the plot as quick as we can without rushing or leaving out details. I'm not sure, but I think if this takes too long to make, we may lose interest after like... a year or so. <.<;; After all, it's something that 1/6th of the time, you're not working on.


my interest gets dull after a while too so, maybe we should get the general plot..no, conflict down (as we seem to already be doing) and get like an introduction page up so that... we feel like we've started :3 I dunno, who's also impatient?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so hypernova general plot consists of-

this- the intro by DM
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The basic idea I have involves the planet being somehow in danger from something or other, and there being to groups of people out to stop it, the government sponsored and controlled group who are very proper and straight about everything they do and wear flashy uniforms (characters in this group would be goody-goody/conformist/conservative/lawful characters like Rocket) and another group made of crazy vigilantes and mercenaries (as you can guess, characters like Sky and Rekki go here).
Since it's AU, the characters are all alternate versions of themselves. For example, in this world, Rekki's hair is DYED red, not naturally that colour, and her super strength will come from something like a mutation, cyborg implants, genetic tampering or whatever, and she's a rough mercenary who simply likes to think of herself as a romantic knight.


this- the specs by DM as well
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'Skytouched'- People with unusual powers. Though it's known that being skytouched effects the body's genetic structure somehow, nobody knows exactly how, or where the effects come from. The abilities are induplicatable by human science and are beyond our powers of understanding. Some believe it to be a mutation, others a gift from highly advanced aliens, some an effect of cosmic radiation, others think it's the hand of a deity or mystical energy field at work.
Skytouched people are superhuman. Some have enhanced physical abilities, others show wierder powers, such as control of energy that seems like magic. They all share one trait though, either partially or entirely pure white hair. Some will have an area, or patches or streaks of white, others their entire hair will be snow coloured. Some leave it as it is, others take the opportunity to dye it some crazy colour, either to blend in or hide their ability, or to show it off, or be flashy with strangely coloured hair!
This idea helps explain things like the hair colours of...er...lots of characters. Mostly mine and Rei's 0_o' It also explains the powers of the characters, and finally, 'Skytouched' is a much cooler sounding term than 'mutants' and has a slightly mystical sound.

Tech level: Personally I'm thinking Star Wars/Cowboy Beebop/Firefly (Serenity) level technology. So it's advanced, but not super advanced, it can't do literally ANYTHING, and it's uneven, not all people and places have the same technology.

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how about if the 'lawful' team have some slightly shady practices behind the scenes (that not all their members will know about), and also their treatment of the vigilantes (vigilantes are illegals, so they're trying to arrest them all the time, but sometimes begrudgingly must work with them for the common good) makes them come across as the bad guys at the start of the story.
This gives us a chance, by only showing things from the perspective of the vigilantes, to make the official people seem cold and like the bad guys. This would let us have Aries appear to be a villain. It would also cause some serious shock for the readers when Rocket turns up on what they think is the 'bad guy' side!


this- idea by Rei
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I have a wicked idea though. <.< And we couldn't reveal this till much later, but what if the people in charge of the Lawfuls were actually instigating whatever it was.

Okay let's say... there's alien invaders trying to take down the planet ("Hypernova" could be the title as well as the name of the planet, btw) and they're pretty nasty.

Well, it seems to the general populace that the Lawfuls are trying to fight the invaders, but what if, instead, the government was paying the alien race to invade so that they can control the people with fear?

(hmm... sounds like the USA right now. )

Basically, the aliens attack and suddenly the government is coming out with "Give us money so we can fight the war!" and if the people seem hesitant or suspicious, the foreign race suddenly attacks and the government can point and be like "see?! See!? Money, fools!"

Their intentions from that point on are to drive the people into such a state of fear that eventually they can become a dictatorship.

But of course, the vigilantes are fighting for themselves and their families, not the government, so they're genuinely trying to get rid of the aliens.

Soldiers like Aries and Rocket don't know about the conspiracy because it forces them to be compliant without knowing it.


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I got the impression that most of the skytouched were vigilantes. <.< I'd also assume the government doesn't like skytouched, which is why most of them are vigilantes. XD

So... basically, it's really hard to say a Lawful is a skytouched unless they're either hiding it or too scary to argue with.

Keep in mind, we could also throw in characters who are neither Lawful or Vigilante. Which leaves them open to skytouchedness.

Actually I think everyone wants skytouched characters, so maybe it should be more common than the government realizes, just everyone but vigilantes try and hide it..


and this- another by DM
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Maybe we could hint that somehow the war is the actual CAUSE of people being skytouched? So the longer the war goes on, the more people begin to have these wierd powers.
We can catagorise skytouched into three types:
Some skytouched people won't know a thing about, maybe they themself won't even be aware (imagine if your power was something like being able to withstand extreme cold, or breathing underwater, you wouldn't know unles you got in a deadly situation!).

People who are a little suspicious seeming. Maybe they deny it, or maybe info on them is lacking or they're difficult to keep tabs on. I think Rekki would fall into this group (she doesn't carry a big sword in this, it'd be a bit inconvenient and obvious, but she can still lift around 800lbs and keep on running with a couple of bulletholes in her.) Many Vigilantes would fall in this group and probably like to think of themselves as superheroes. There will be other random people out there affiliated with no group who have powers too.

Finally there are the openly skytouched people, either working alone or with vigilantes, confident in their ability to not get caught, or working with the lawfuls with the belief that they can use their powers to uphold justice. The Govenment probably don't mind skytouched people...so long as THEY know about them and have access to them and control over them! Rocket falls in this group, the government feel they need to keep close tabs on her, and she wants to uphold law and order, so it seems mutually beneficial to her (yes, Rocket is naive in this too.)

Changing characters:
You can make whatever alterations you think are appropriate to your character. Preferably keep them recognisable as the original character in some ways, but since this is an alternate version of your character, they may well be quite different. Think of how in Kingdom Hearts the FF characters are kind of the same, but kind of different. Clamp's 'Tsubasa Resevoir Chronicle' is also a good pointer, since it features alternate versions of Clamp characters.
Lawful or Vigilante?:
Hmmm, this is a tough choice to make with a character. I guess it's all down to how the character feels on law and authority. The best questions to ask here are simple ones: 'your character is given some homework that they feel is pointless. How do they complain?"
Do they: Do the work, then raise the point with the staff or make a petition? (your character is probably a lawful)
Instead of doing the work, just write a complaint in their book or make some smartassed comment to the teacher? (probably a vigilante)


and of course, the idea of Rei's above-
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Oh no idea!!

(I like this storyline, it's making me have ideas. XD)

Let's say the goverment keeps very powerful skytouched imprisoned to keep them from being a threat. Raphael could be one of these.

It'd be an awesome way of turning the tables if for the first part of the story, the vigilantes are heavily outnumbered and don't seem like they could possibly win at all. We could even drive them down to the point where the readers are like "But but, how;s this gonna end, there's no way for them to win!!"

And then introduce a set of characters who are extremely powerful but just imprisoned who actually event he scales. *nod*


and well I can't really sum it all up since some ideas conflict others, but um well, furthur discussion!

hope i'm not being annoying. Just enthused.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woah :0 Thanks for organizing all that! Much easier to get all the ideas together now Very Happy

Things are really starting to come together now!

I also agree on going into the plot quickly to abolish a possibility of lost interest. I can kinda go both ways on feigned interest, but still agree that we should probably clean some plot things up and get started relatively soon for the impatient ones Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*is impatient* <.<; We need to decide how we plan to handle this and trade things off.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReiDavidson wrote:
We need to decide how we plan to handle this and trade things off.


Agreed. A one-page tradeoff between participants crossed my mind, but unless we're feeling especially experimental in having so many different styles over a short span of pages, that idea can be pretty much nixed. It might be better if we could find a sort of comprimise on how many pages one will be able to produce in a given amount of time. I'll be brave here and throw out a figure of... say, five or ten pages in said amount of time? But that's based on how much work I alone can get done at any moment, and again that's more than wide open for compromise (nothing's set in stone yet! ^^)

Also, we'll need to decide who'll be starting us off .-.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said this to DM and she didn't seem to like it, but I think we should all do an introduction comic for the characters...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. Introduction comic? As in each of us introduces the characters we'll be presenting for the story in a sort of miniature introductory way all Masayuki Taguchi style, or go through each character individually being like "This is Blank."? Maybe I'm just reading into it too far and looking directly over what's right in front of me ._.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAD SUMMARIZIN' SKILLZ, ALEX!

I would say, it might be better to hand out one scene rather than one page. We could sort scenes out for what wuold match each person's style best. Page-to-page changing can be distracting. (See: old skool CotE)
Which has pretty much been said already! Hooray for repeating stuff, Donut! Dur.
Introductions? Can be a tad cheesy sometimes. I think if would be nifty keen to just HOP INTO ACTION, letting us get a feel for them all as things go along? Maybe?

What would be the raddest, most kick-assedly exciting way to start?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually that scenes bit doesn't sound like a bad idea! It may be a bit of a hassle to be going through a bunch of scenes and assigning them to different artists, but if we pretty much come up with it as we go... euh, wait a minute 6(._. )

Well, my inability to come up with an alternate method aside, it sounds like a good idea to organize who draws what Smile We just need someone more capable of... thinking to come up with how each artist will recieve their assigned scenes ._.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal idea was to write out a script first, on which everybody collaberates, written like a screenplay.
ie.
[Sky looks at Rekki]
Rekki: "What?"
Sky: "Zombies!"
Rekki: [annoyed] There are NO zombies, Sky!

Then we divvy up the script into parts or single pages for people to do. Simply because waiting for Charil or moonlover to do 6 pages is fine, but I tend to do comics a lot slower because I'm very finnicky on small details.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darthmongoose wrote:

Then we divvy up the script into parts or single pages for people to do. Simply because waiting for Charil or moonlover to do 6 pages is fine, but I tend to do comics a lot slower because I'm very finnicky on small details.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damnit, I gotta hit that stay logged in box Rolling Eyes

I think the script sounds good, i had something like that in mind. The scene idea also sounds effective...

Alright! forget the introduction- action it'll be! Little details can come later (like, have a lawful explaining the situation through conversation, etc etc)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, okay, no intros!

I'll get us started on a script. I'm going to make one thread for discussiing the script and another that is the actual written script.

We may end up doing this almost as roleplaying... o.o

Someone get Moony in here!! *flails*
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I make a suggesteration?

Charil since we have so few Lawfuls vs. Vigilantes, could you make Hikaru a lawful?



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