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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colour might be fun, since I don't do a coloured comic already. I'll produce a coloured version of Rekki's design at some point for reference. What do the rest of you think? Colour?

Also, how are we going to do storyline/scripting? I feel like I'm being a little too in control here, and would like the rest of you to input. Are we going to do most of the brainstorming through IMing and chat?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. IM or chat could work for the brainstorming, since it would be immediate feedback, but not everyone is always online at the same time. We could always come up with possible ideas in one of those mediums and one of us could post the final result in the forums.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darthmongoose wrote:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/28999892/

Behold, Sci-fi style Rekki! With short hair omg! I've put her down as 18 since she's almost 18 in FDG, I may make this Rekki older if it makes more sense, not sure yet, it would mean making Rocket older too though, which I don't really want to do (for spoiler reasons). I'm thinking Rekki goes without saying, since everybody likes Rekki and she's easy to draw.
Maybe we should have it so that lots of the characters appear, but some of them have a very major part, and others just make quick cameos or mentions or are recurring background characters.

Hmm, I think so long as we don't go overboard, we can have other characters.The majority ought to be regular Hyper characters, but we can have some originals too.

Anybody got good ideas regarding the enemy/villains/plotline?
Vaine totally HAS to be a villian. HAS TO.

I could use Beo, but he's not villian-y enough.

I could also use Fluke.

I like villians, mayhaps I could design one?

On the colour note: I can't do screentones. ._. My computer doesn't handle it very well. like I can but I can't. <.<; My computer doesn't have much space on it.

So if we don't do colour we can't do screentones if we want consistancy. <.<;;; Sorry.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaaaactually.... I kinda want Aries to be a villian. or start off as one at least. <.<
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReiDavidson wrote:

On the colour note: I can't do screentones. ._. My computer doesn't handle it very well. like I can but I can't. <.<; My computer doesn't have much space on it.

So if we don't do colour we can't do screentones if we want consistancy. <.<;;; Sorry.


As one of the main screentone-users, I have no problem with not using them Very Happy I was a feeling a bit of apprehension in regards of having to find screentones to match up to every used character ._.

But ona a different note: yeah. Vaine would make a great villain Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm, how about if the 'lawful' team have some slightly shady practices behind the scenes (that not all their members will know about), and also their treatment of the vigilantes (vigilantes are illegals, so they're trying to arrest them all the time, but sometimes begrudgingly must work with them for the common good) makes them come across as the bad guys at the start of the story.
This gives us a chance, by only showing things from the perspective of the vigilantes, to make the official people seem cold and like the bad guys. This would let us have Aries appear to be a villain. It would also cause some serious shock for the readers when Rocket turns up on what they think is the 'bad guy' side!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, here's what I'm thinking for Aries.

He's a lawful person, and he's very by the book. Which means, he does everything how he was trained. He questions his superior's authority but he was trained to do what those who outrank him tell him to do.

His red streak is covering up what is actually a white streak, which means he's skytouched. He has un-practised pyschic abilities.

Right now, our enemy is pretty vague. As in it was described as "danger from something or other" by DM. :XD

I have a wicked idea though. <.< And we couldn't reveal this till much later, but what if the people in charge of the Lawfuls were actually instigating whatever it was.

Okay let's say... there's alien invaders trying to take down the planet ("Hypernova" could be the title as well as the name of the planet, btw) and they're pretty nasty.

Well, it seems to the general populace that the Lawfuls are trying to fight the invaders, but what if, instead, the government was paying the alien race to invade so that they can control the people with fear?

(hmm... sounds like the USA right now. Razz)

Basically, the aliens attack and suddenly the government is coming out with "Give us money so we can fight the war!" and if the people seem hesitant or suspicious, the foreign race suddenly attacks and the government can point and be like "see?! See!? Money, fools!"

Their intentions from that point on are to drive the people into such a state of fear that eventually they can become a dictatorship.

But of course, the vigilantes are fighting for themselves and their families, not the government, so they're genuinely trying to get rid of the aliens.

Soldiers like Aries and Rocket don't know about the conspiracy because it forces them to be compliant without knowing it.

I think that story line could go lots of places. *nod* It could even result in Rocket and Aries' lives being in danger if they found out the truth, which causes lots of conflict with the vigilantes. Save the people they've had to fght on the side or save them?

What do you think?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna profile Aries for record purpose.



Name: Aries
Age: 18
Station: One of the lawful peoples.

Aries is a wet behind the ears rookie who is eager to rise through the ranks. A talented cadet with good abilities, he is a favorite of some of the higher ranking officers.

He's a skytouched, but denies it when asked and even when proven to be one. He's not at peace with his abilities. He has psychic abilities, giving him powers of telekinesis, preminitions, and postcognitive abilities. However, his powers are grossly undeveloped despite needing to grow. Sometimes they bombard him or cause him small fits.

Outside of his job, he believes in justice and equality (he won't be intolerant or homophobic in this comic. ^^; ). Insideof it, he doesn't always agree with what his superiors have to say but he believes in being by the book and follows orders.

I'd kinda like his dad to be one of the higher ranking officers in the Lawful peoples section... but that's up for discussion.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole villainous plot sort of thing Rei brought up sounds like it's among the coolest things I've ever heard. And I'm not just saying that because I'm uncreative, it works with the story, gives a legit plot, and provides an explanation for how peoplemay want some of their characters to turn out. Thumbs up Very Happy

And I'm about a hair away from picking a couple names out of a bloody hat so I can join Rei and DM in the profiling department ._.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Rei's idea, it fits in perfectly with the idea of the shady govenment, the good and bad law enforcers, the threat from outside and the vigilantes.
Also, perhaps we should make that uniform Aries is wearing, the uniform of all the lawful troops (or varients of that uniform with a similar basic design.)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ngghnnnnn, I spent all morning colouring Sky, only to have my computer freeze the hell up and I HAD NOT SAVED IT.
But that's okay, because no one else has coloured yet.
SO HERE IS SKY (AND KAZU)
(COLOUR AND DETAILS AND STUFF COMES LATER)



Sky is...well, she's Sky. Doesn't change much, 'verse to 'verse. She's got her own little world and her own little set of rules that don't exactly match up with society at large. She's devoted to justice, on a more basic, crazy batman logic level than the authorities. A hero, but only to her allies. She seems quite mad with her excitable, somewhat spastic nature and metaphorical, lyrical-at-times speaking. SHE AM SKY. Kazu is her pet crow. he does her bidding if she bribes him with enough munchies. (that is why he is a fatty)
She is touched! Duhhuh. With the same abilities she has in CotE which are going to TURN UP VERY SOON ZOMG.
MO' ON THAT LATER, GUYS. RIGHT NOW I AM LATE (FOR A VERY IMPORTANT DATE) (BY WHICH I MEAN CINNAMON HEARTS AND TALKING ABOUT SUPERVILLIANS AND WATCHING VERONICA MARS!)

I'm toying with the idea of introducing a side-character-Shao. Not entirely sure about that yet.

ps: I also dig Rei's idear!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vaine as a villain? or vigilante?
Either would work ^^... actually, he can work as a lawful if i straighten him up...

We can intensify our characters personality right? I want to make Redd all badass and have him be a Vigilante Very Happy

Ah heck most of my characters can work as Lawfuls, but I especially can see Katy as being one, in a high position but (if we're following Rei's idea) still not have knowledge of behind the scenes... or I can make her the vigilante and it'd be really weird 0_o

As far as it looks, guess Vigilantes can wear whatever as long as they look like one, but how about the lawfuls? Should we follow Aries' costume?
it looks sweet ^^

Also..(all these questions!?) can anybody be a skytouched? I'd make sense if the vigilantes do, or will lawfuls just combat with weapons? o.o Maybe I should have Redd keep the invisibility concept except of course with full control over it?

and uhh.... oh, that's it. I need to catch everyone on chat again Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Vaine'd make an awesome Lawful.

And I think Sky and Jinn are gonna get along. XD

I got the impression that most of the skytouched were vigilantes. <.< I'd also assume the government doesn't like skytouched, which is why most of them are vigilantes. XD

So... basically, it's really hard to say a Lawful is a skytouched unless they're either hiding it or too scary to argue with.

I kinda snatched Aries' skytouchedness quickly before too many lawfuls were made and it was uncanon. ^^;;;;

Keep in mind, we could also throw in characters who are neither Lawful or Vigilante. Which leaves them open to skytouchedness.

Actually I think everyone wants skytouched characters, so maybe it should be more common than the government realizes, just everyone but vigilantes try and hide it..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we could hint that somehow the war is the actual CAUSE of people being skytouched? So the longer the war goes on, the more people begin to have these wierd powers.
We can catagorise skytouched into three types:
Some skytouched people won't know a thing about, maybe they themself won't even be aware (imagine if your power was something like being able to withstand extreme cold, or breathing underwater, you wouldn't know unles you got in a deadly situation!).
People who are a little suspicious seeming. Maybe they deny it, or maybe info on them is lacking or they're difficult to keep tabs on. I think Rekki would fall into this group (she doesn't carry a big sword in this, it'd be a bit inconvenient and obvious, but she can still lift around 800lbs and keep on running with a couple of bulletholes in her.) Many Vigilantes would fall in this group and probably like to think of themselves as superheroes. There will be other random people out there affiliated with no group who have powers too.

Finally there are the openly skytouched people, either working alone or with vigilantes, confident in their ability to not get caught, or working with the lawfuls with the belief that they can use their powers to uphold justice. The Govenment probably don't mind skytouched people...so long as THEY know about them and have access to them and control over them! Rocket falls in this group, the government feel they need to keep close tabs on her, and she wants to uphold law and order, so it seems mutually beneficial to her (yes, Rocket is naive in this too.)


Changing characters:
You can make whatever alterations you think are appropriate to your character. Preferably keep them recognisable as the original character in some ways, but since this is an alternate version of your character, they may well be quite different. Think of how in Kingdom Hearts the FF characters are kind of the same, but kind of different. Clamp's 'Tsubasa Resevoir Chronicle' is also a good pointer, since it features alternate versions of Clamp characters.
Lawful or Vigilante?:
Hmmm, this is a tough choice to make with a character. I guess it's all down to how the character feels on law and authority. The best questions to ask here are simple ones: 'your character is given some homework that they feel is pointless. How do they complain?"
Do they: Do the work, then raise the point with the staff or make a petition? (your character is probably a lawful)
Instead of doing the work, just write a complaint in their book or make some smartassed comment to the teacher? (probably a vigilante)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mew, Jinn is most definately a Vigilante.

I don't see Raphael as either, but I'm suddenly questioning using him.

What if I used him as an adult?

Hmm... I think I'll come up with stuff about Jinn first.



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