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Charil

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darthmongoose

Hehehe. Okay people (I'll try to direct the six wicked fighters here). What I have in mind is a sci-fi comic, possibly sci-fi/fantasy, that involves characters from comics on Hyper-comix by Charil, Kxela, Moonlover, Aluminium Donut, Rei Davidson and myself.

The basic idea I have involves the planet being somehow in danger from something or other, and there being to groups of people out to stop it, the government sponsored and controlled group who are very proper and straight about everything they do and wear flashy uniforms (characters in this group would be goody-goody/conformist/conservative/lawful characters like Rocket) and another group made of crazy vigilantes and mercenaries (as you can guess, characters like Sky and Rekki go here).
Since it's AU, the characters are all alternate versions of themselves. For example, in this world, Rekki's hair is DYED red, not naturally that colour, and her super strength will come from something like a mutation, cyborg implants, genetic tampering or whatever, and she's a rough mercenary who simply likes to think of herself as a romantic knight.

That's all I have so far. Not sure on the main plot. If you got some good villains, we could do with them (or we could collab design villains or something specially for the comic and just have the heroes crossover).
Please input!

Charil

Sounds pretty cool Smile

An interesting story you've got going here, not too done-to-death and could make for some interesting work! Naturally details will need to be etched in as things progress but it's really not a bad idea so far!

Yaoilovertash · cool idea

Great idea, can I join too?

AluminiumDonut

NEVER FEAR OR BE SLIGHTLY MORE WARY, DONUT IS HERE.

Just, y'know, calling role or something. ROLL CALL?? Role? Roll? pffff, I'mo go read some X-Men now.

darthmongoose

YLT, We're mostly keeping this project to people doing regularly updated comics on hyper at the moment, so unless you're doing one, I'm afraid you can't really join, sorry.

darthmongoose

Some ideas and stuff:

'Hypernova' -working title for the comic. Whatever title we use, it ought to contain the word 'hyper' at some point I think.

Idea that came up discussed on hyper chat. This works well for explaining the powers of the various characters in a sci-fi setting, and also forms a good basis for thinking about villains and storylines:

'Skytouched'- People with unusual powers. Though it's known that being skytouched effects the body's genetic structure somehow, nobody knows exactly how, or where the effects come from. The abilities are induplicatable by human science and are beyond our powers of understanding. Some believe it to be a mutation, others a gift from highly advanced aliens, some an effect of cosmic radiation, others think it's the hand of a deity or mystical energy field at work.
Skytouched people are superhuman. Some have enhanced physical abilities, others show wierder powers, such as control of energy that seems like magic. They all share one trait though, either partially or entirely pure white hair. Some will have an area, or patches or streaks of white, others their entire hair will be snow coloured. Some leave it as it is, others take the opportunity to dye it some crazy colour, either to blend in or hide their ability, or to show it off, or be flashy with strangely coloured hair!
This idea helps explain things like the hair colours of...er...lots of characters. Mostly mine and Rei's 0_o' It also explains the powers of the characters, and finally, 'Skytouched' is a much cooler sounding term than 'mutants' and has a slightly mystical sound.

Tech level: Personally I'm thinking Star Wars/Cowboy Beebop/Firefly (Serenity) level technology. So it's advanced, but not super advanced, it can't do literally ANYTHING, and it's uneven, not all people and places have the same technology.

INPUT IDEAS AND THOUGHTS PLEASE!

Charil

Sounds like it's really going places Very Happy

Wish I could come up with a question about something but everything seems pretty well thought out as for the moment.

Wow. This has gotten me all excited Very Happy

Rei Davidson

Does it have to be comic characters or could I add in one of my favorite non-comic characters?

AluminiumDonut

AND EXCELLENT QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ASKED, EXCEPT ALL OF MY CHARACTERS END UP IN COTE ANYWAY ;D

SO What kids (by "kids" I mean characters) are we gonna be usin'?

Charil

ReiDavidson

I think I want Raph and Beo, maybe Aries.

But I wanna throw Jinn in there and he's not part of PA.

darthmongoose

http://www.deviantart.com/view/28999892/

Behold, Sci-fi style Rekki! With short hair omg! I've put her down as 18 since she's almost 18 in FDG, I may make this Rekki older if it makes more sense, not sure yet, it would mean making Rocket older too though, which I don't really want to do (for spoiler reasons). I'm thinking Rekki goes without saying, since everybody likes Rekki and she's easy to draw.
Maybe we should have it so that lots of the characters appear, but some of them have a very major part, and others just make quick cameos or mentions or are recurring background characters.

Hmm, I think so long as we don't go overboard, we can have other characters.The majority ought to be regular Hyper characters, but we can have some originals too.

Anybody got good ideas regarding the enemy/villains/plotline?

Charil

Oh!

This has nothing to do with anything regarding characters or whatnot, but I was just lying there and this thought just... sporadically came to mind... is comic mode.

Or rather I should say... would it be in colour or grayscale?
I know two of the members of this little collaberation, three if you count some of Moonie's comics, do their pages in colour. It just popped into my head; would there be one standard mode for all pages, or alternating with artists, or something? :0

That was a bit random ._. I'm back to bed now...

darthmongoose

Colour might be fun, since I don't do a coloured comic already. I'll produce a coloured version of Rekki's design at some point for reference. What do the rest of you think? Colour?

Also, how are we going to do storyline/scripting? I feel like I'm being a little too in control here, and would like the rest of you to input. Are we going to do most of the brainstorming through IMing and chat?

Charil

Hm. IM or chat could work for the brainstorming, since it would be immediate feedback, but not everyone is always online at the same time. We could always come up with possible ideas in one of those mediums and one of us could post the final result in the forums.

ReiDavidson

ReiDavidson

Aaaaactually.... I kinda want Aries to be a villian. or start off as one at least. <.<

Charil

darthmongoose

Hmmmm, how about if the 'lawful' team have some slightly shady practices behind the scenes (that not all their members will know about), and also their treatment of the vigilantes (vigilantes are illegals, so they're trying to arrest them all the time, but sometimes begrudgingly must work with them for the common good) makes them come across as the bad guys at the start of the story.
This gives us a chance, by only showing things from the perspective of the vigilantes, to make the official people seem cold and like the bad guys. This would let us have Aries appear to be a villain. It would also cause some serious shock for the readers when Rocket turns up on what they think is the 'bad guy' side!

ReiDavidson

Okay, here's what I'm thinking for Aries.

He's a lawful person, and he's very by the book. Which means, he does everything how he was trained. He questions his superior's authority but he was trained to do what those who outrank him tell him to do.

His red streak is covering up what is actually a white streak, which means he's skytouched. He has un-practised pyschic abilities.

Right now, our enemy is pretty vague. As in it was described as "danger from something or other" by DM. :XD

I have a wicked idea though. <.< And we couldn't reveal this till much later, but what if the people in charge of the Lawfuls were actually instigating whatever it was.

Okay let's say... there's alien invaders trying to take down the planet ("Hypernova" could be the title as well as the name of the planet, btw) and they're pretty nasty.

Well, it seems to the general populace that the Lawfuls are trying to fight the invaders, but what if, instead, the government was paying the alien race to invade so that they can control the people with fear?

(hmm... sounds like the USA right now. Razz

)

Basically, the aliens attack and suddenly the government is coming out with "Give us money so we can fight the war!" and if the people seem hesitant or suspicious, the foreign race suddenly attacks and the government can point and be like "see?! See!? Money, fools!"

Their intentions from that point on are to drive the people into such a state of fear that eventually they can become a dictatorship.

But of course, the vigilantes are fighting for themselves and their families, not the government, so they're genuinely trying to get rid of the aliens.

Soldiers like Aries and Rocket don't know about the conspiracy because it forces them to be compliant without knowing it.

I think that story line could go lots of places. *nod* It could even result in Rocket and Aries' lives being in danger if they found out the truth, which causes lots of conflict with the vigilantes. Save the people they've had to fght on the side or save them?

What do you think?

ReiDavidson

Gonna profile Aries for record purpose.

Name: Aries
Age: 18
Station: One of the lawful peoples.

Aries is a wet behind the ears rookie who is eager to rise through the ranks. A talented cadet with good abilities, he is a favorite of some of the higher ranking officers.

He's a skytouched, but denies it when asked and even when proven to be one. He's not at peace with his abilities. He has psychic abilities, giving him powers of telekinesis, preminitions, and postcognitive abilities. However, his powers are grossly undeveloped despite needing to grow. Sometimes they bombard him or cause him small fits.

Outside of his job, he believes in justice and equality (he won't be intolerant or homophobic in this comic. ^^; ). Insideof it, he doesn't always agree with what his superiors have to say but he believes in being by the book and follows orders.

I'd kinda like his dad to be one of the higher ranking officers in the Lawful peoples section... but that's up for discussion.

Charil

The whole villainous plot sort of thing Rei brought up sounds like it's among the coolest things I've ever heard. And I'm not just saying that because I'm uncreative, it works with the story, gives a legit plot, and provides an explanation for how peoplemay want some of their characters to turn out. Thumbs up Very Happy

And I'm about a hair away from picking a couple names out of a bloody hat so I can join Rei and DM in the profiling department ._.

darthmongoose

I agree with Rei's idea, it fits in perfectly with the idea of the shady govenment, the good and bad law enforcers, the threat from outside and the vigilantes.
Also, perhaps we should make that uniform Aries is wearing, the uniform of all the lawful troops (or varients of that uniform with a similar basic design.)

AluminiumDonut

ngghnnnnn, I spent all morning colouring Sky, only to have my computer freeze the hell up and I HAD NOT SAVED IT.
But that's okay, because no one else has coloured yet.
SO HERE IS SKY (AND KAZU)
(COLOUR AND DETAILS AND STUFF COMES LATER)

Sky is...well, she's Sky. Doesn't change much, 'verse to 'verse. She's got her own little world and her own little set of rules that don't exactly match up with society at large. She's devoted to justice, on a more basic, crazy batman logic level than the authorities. A hero, but only to her allies. She seems quite mad with her excitable, somewhat spastic nature and metaphorical, lyrical-at-times speaking. SHE AM SKY. Kazu is her pet crow. he does her bidding if she bribes him with enough munchies. (that is why he is a fatty)
She is touched! Duhhuh. With the same abilities she has in CotE which are going to TURN UP VERY SOON ZOMG.
MO' ON THAT LATER, GUYS. RIGHT NOW I AM LATE (FOR A VERY IMPORTANT DATE) (BY WHICH I MEAN CINNAMON HEARTS AND TALKING ABOUT SUPERVILLIANS AND WATCHING VERONICA MARS!)

I'm toying with the idea of introducing a side-character-Shao. Not entirely sure about that yet.

ps: I also dig Rei's idear!

Guest

Vaine as a villain? or vigilante?
Either would work ^^... actually, he can work as a lawful if i straighten him up...

We can intensify our characters personality right? I want to make Redd all badass and have him be a Vigilante Very Happy

Ah heck most of my characters can work as Lawfuls, but I especially can see Katy as being one, in a high position but (if we're following Rei's idea) still not have knowledge of behind the scenes... or I can make her the vigilante and it'd be really weird 0_o

As far as it looks, guess Vigilantes can wear whatever as long as they look like one, but how about the lawfuls? Should we follow Aries' costume?
it looks sweet ^^

Also..(all these questions!?) can anybody be a skytouched? I'd make sense if the vigilantes do, or will lawfuls just combat with weapons? o.o Maybe I should have Redd keep the invisibility concept except of course with full control over it?

and uhh.... oh, that's it. I need to catch everyone on chat again Razz

ReiDavidson

I think Vaine'd make an awesome Lawful.

And I think Sky and Jinn are gonna get along. XD

I got the impression that most of the skytouched were vigilantes. <.< I'd also assume the government doesn't like skytouched, which is why most of them are vigilantes. XD

So... basically, it's really hard to say a Lawful is a skytouched unless they're either hiding it or too scary to argue with.

I kinda snatched Aries' skytouchedness quickly before too many lawfuls were made and it was uncanon. ^^;;;;

Keep in mind, we could also throw in characters who are neither Lawful or Vigilante. Which leaves them open to skytouchedness.

Actually I think everyone wants skytouched characters, so maybe it should be more common than the government realizes, just everyone but vigilantes try and hide it..

darthmongoose

Maybe we could hint that somehow the war is the actual CAUSE of people being skytouched? So the longer the war goes on, the more people begin to have these wierd powers.
We can catagorise skytouched into three types:
Some skytouched people won't know a thing about, maybe they themself won't even be aware (imagine if your power was something like being able to withstand extreme cold, or breathing underwater, you wouldn't know unles you got in a deadly situation!).
People who are a little suspicious seeming. Maybe they deny it, or maybe info on them is lacking or they're difficult to keep tabs on. I think Rekki would fall into this group (she doesn't carry a big sword in this, it'd be a bit inconvenient and obvious, but she can still lift around 800lbs and keep on running with a couple of bulletholes in her.) Many Vigilantes would fall in this group and probably like to think of themselves as superheroes. There will be other random people out there affiliated with no group who have powers too.

Finally there are the openly skytouched people, either working alone or with vigilantes, confident in their ability to not get caught, or working with the lawfuls with the belief that they can use their powers to uphold justice. The Govenment probably don't mind skytouched people...so long as THEY know about them and have access to them and control over them! Rocket falls in this group, the government feel they need to keep close tabs on her, and she wants to uphold law and order, so it seems mutually beneficial to her (yes, Rocket is naive in this too.)

Changing characters:
You can make whatever alterations you think are appropriate to your character. Preferably keep them recognisable as the original character in some ways, but since this is an alternate version of your character, they may well be quite different. Think of how in Kingdom Hearts the FF characters are kind of the same, but kind of different. Clamp's 'Tsubasa Resevoir Chronicle' is also a good pointer, since it features alternate versions of Clamp characters.
Lawful or Vigilante?:
Hmmm, this is a tough choice to make with a character. I guess it's all down to how the character feels on law and authority. The best questions to ask here are simple ones: 'your character is given some homework that they feel is pointless. How do they complain?"
Do they: Do the work, then raise the point with the staff or make a petition? (your character is probably a lawful)
Instead of doing the work, just write a complaint in their book or make some smartassed comment to the teacher? (probably a vigilante)

ReiDavidson

Mew, Jinn is most definately a Vigilante.

I don't see Raphael as either, but I'm suddenly questioning using him.

What if I used him as an adult?

Hmm... I think I'll come up with stuff about Jinn first.

ReiDavidson

Oh no idea!!

(I like this storyline, it's making me have ideas. XD)

Let's say the goverment keeps very powerful skytouched imprisoned to keep them from being a threat. Raphael could be one of these.

It'd be an awesome way of turning the tables if for the first part of the story, the vigilantes are heavily outnumbered and don't seem like they could possibly win at all. We could even drive them down to the point where the readers are like "But but, how;s this gonna end, there's no way for them to win!!"

And then introduce a set of characters who are extremely powerful but just imprisoned who actually event he scales. *nod*

Hmm... that sounded cooler in my head. :/

Also, I think we should introduce the characters and then go on witht he plot as quick as we can without rushing or leaving out details. I'm not sure, but I think if this takes too long to make, we may lose interest after like... a year or so. <.<;; After all, it's something that 1/6th of the time, you're not working on.

Kxela

Whoa, thats an awesome idea. Good one Rei Very Happy

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...okay, I think i got it, reading over all the posts. It's just...@_@ everythings so unorganized at this point I guess.

Idea

I think I'll um explode this clumpy lil thread and put to use the whole thread. watch out.

EDIT: okay~ I made a character list topic, so we can have a neat list of all the Hypernova characters Very Happy

Also, like Rei said-

Kxela

so hypernova general plot consists of-

this- the intro by DM

Charil

Woah :0 Thanks for organizing all that! Much easier to get all the ideas together now Very Happy

Things are really starting to come together now!

I also agree on going into the plot quickly to abolish a possibility of lost interest. I can kinda go both ways on feigned interest, but still agree that we should probably clean some plot things up and get started relatively soon for the impatient ones Very Happy

ReiDavidson

*is impatient* <.<; We need to decide how we plan to handle this and trade things off.

Charil

ReiDavidson

I said this to DM and she didn't seem to like it, but I think we should all do an introduction comic for the characters...

Charil

Hm. Introduction comic? As in each of us introduces the characters we'll be presenting for the story in a sort of miniature introductory way all Masayuki Taguchi style, or go through each character individually being like "This is Blank."? Maybe I'm just reading into it too far and looking directly over what's right in front of me ._.

AluminiumDonut

RAD SUMMARIZIN' SKILLZ, ALEX!

I would say, it might be better to hand out one scene rather than one page. We could sort scenes out for what wuold match each person's style best. Page-to-page changing can be distracting. (See: old skool CotE)
Which has pretty much been said already! Hooray for repeating stuff, Donut! Dur.
Introductions? Can be a tad cheesy sometimes. I think if would be nifty keen to just HOP INTO ACTION, letting us get a feel for them all as things go along? Maybe?

What would be the raddest, most kick-assedly exciting way to start?

Charil

Actually that scenes bit doesn't sound like a bad idea! It may be a bit of a hassle to be going through a bunch of scenes and assigning them to different artists, but if we pretty much come up with it as we go... euh, wait a minute 6(._. )

Well, my inability to come up with an alternate method aside, it sounds like a good idea to organize who draws what Smile

We just need someone more capable of... thinking to come up with how each artist will recieve their assigned scenes ._.

darthmongoose

My personal idea was to write out a script first, on which everybody collaberates, written like a screenplay.
ie.
[Sky looks at Rekki]
Rekki: "What?"
Sky: "Zombies!"
Rekki: [annoyed] There are NO zombies, Sky!

Then we divvy up the script into parts or single pages for people to do. Simply because waiting for Charil or moonlover to do 6 pages is fine, but I tend to do comics a lot slower because I'm very finnicky on small details.

Guest

Kxela

damnit, I gotta hit that stay logged in box Rolling Eyes

I think the script sounds good, i had something like that in mind. The scene idea also sounds effective...

Alright! forget the introduction- action it'll be! Little details can come later (like, have a lawful explaining the situation through conversation, etc etc)

Very Happy

ReiDavidson

Okay, okay, no intros!

I'll get us started on a script. I'm going to make one thread for discussiing the script and another that is the actual written script.

We may end up doing this almost as roleplaying... o.o

Someone get Moony in here!! *flails*

ReiDavidson

Can I make a suggesteration?

Charil since we have so few Lawfuls vs. Vigilantes, could you make Hikaru a lawful?

Charil

donutsallergictologgingin

I have a few lawful folk in the works myself.
Will post stuff up for approval after work which I have to leave for now WTF I WAS JUST THERE 12 HOURS AGO inventory wtf

darthmongoose

If we're still lacking lawfuls and don't mind having more characters, I don't mind brining out Sarin, or maybe some of the older characters who haven't been introduced. Even Juu could work as a Lawful, or Subo...

What about Daisy? she's still a free agent character. Should she be nudged to 'Lawful'?

ReiDavidson

I'll leave it up to Moon. Hikaru just seemed like a good candidate for lawful. It seemed more like the only reason she wasn't lawful was because Charil was being indecisive again. XD *pokes fun at Charil then hugs her*

Charil

... yeah, okay, that's true xD *hugged and hugs*

Kxela

I thought some of you wanted Vaine~
guess not...? But I'll make him a Lawful now if he still may be in :3

ReiDavidson

Vaaaaaaaaiiiiine!

darthmongoose

Since everybody loves Vaine, I think we have room for him hahaha. Vaine is awesome.

Donut (cantlogin)

i definately love vaine more than i love raymond

Donut (cantlogin)

which was a play on "everybody loves raymond" HURR sorry it is a work-tired donut now

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cool idea