Hyper Down :(

Rainy · Hyper Down :(

evidently the domain name expired guys. But the good news is that all the data still exists.

Hopefully Coby is renewing the name. I have emailed to ask her about it.

If she is, wonderful. If she's not, we'll need a new domain name to plug the existing site back into - so maybe think of some names or something.

Hopefully - the name is being renewed and things will go as before, just with a little hiccup.

Our apologies for the inconvenience.

darthmongoose

Thanks, Rainy.
Okay, guys. It's not the end of the world, even if hyper really is gone for good, we can make a NEW, BETTER hyper! ^_^ ...But it might be back tomorrow. Just don't worry okay? We're trying to get a response from Coby at the moment.
For now, feel free to brainstorm ideas and hang out here.

ReiDavidson

I know a good provider if we need to make a new domain and stuff.

jesse

Still not back up. I'm almost hoping Coby DOESN'T renew, because that would let the site pass into the hands of the people who actually use it.

<3

-Jesse

ReiDavidson

Yeah,t he domain name would be available then and we could purchase it right?

Kxela

i cried. (well no not really)

...ohh no I cant see my hosted website anymore either.. *cries*

I had a new NC update too...

oh well T_T nice new shelter for now

melonman

call it hyper-awesome.com

but in all seriousness.
i shrug. a new URL is kinda... a hard one to think about.

hi everyone!

(you know this is like hyper-bombshelter) what ho, pip pip, tra la!

Charil

What about... euh... hell, like I have an idea.

Oh well, if Coby doesn't renew the site, it's not like we only have a short time to come up with a name :0 We can take our time~

darthmongoose

melonman

though we once had children, i have never gotten oub's contact info. so i can not help you.

why don't we call it. Hyper-Land

or... Hyper-Peanut.

or Hyper-Consecutive-imagery.com

EDIT: while my post has these "add's by google" on it... do i get payed per click? What ho! pip pip, tra la!...

srsly...

AluminiumDonut

I think we could do without the "Hyper" seeing as there is already a "Hyper Comics" :C

also, bomb shelters are hardcore.

Kxela

I cant believe 'awesomecomics.com' takes you to Platinum studios...

(is typing random domain names)

Comixhyper.com is available Razz

What ho! pip pip, tra la!

...-.- I'd rather keep it as hyper-comix though

Kxela

yesterday I lashed out in sorrow to Coby on myspace. Razz

she said its a long story but
she also said things will be back to normal by monday.
so... maybe she's getting the site name back Very Happy

?

ReiDavidson

... <.<;;;

I'll just say it.

I'd rather start a new site than go on with Coby as our "fearless" leader.

I don't like the idea of being ignored for months at a time. Rainy, I at least knew, would do it because of legitimate reasons. Because she actually took the time to explain it.

Coby just doesn't care. There. I said it. She doesn't care or even like most of us. I get the distinct impression she is particularly unliking of myself and Kate.

However, out of everyone to ever come through that site, Kate cares more about comics, people who make comics and the art behind comics than anyone I have ever met. Kate puts more effort into helping, progressing and improving the site than it's own owner does.

Kate, if you'll purchase a new domain and site, and Rainy, if you'll help us code it and put it all together, I'll send you donations to help you pay for it. whenever I can. But in truth, I'd much rather follow Kate and be part of her vision than put up with Coby and her lack of vision.

So who's with me?

AluminiumDonut

All I'm going to say is come next Friday when I actually have money in my bank account, I'd love to start pulling together DIVINE COMICKRY. Because Kate and I have been talking about it for like a year now.

edit: Okay, guys.

Friday I am buying a domain- I've been thinking of this for a while, now- for my own personal use.
If you guys want, it'll be a new place to play.
If we take the donutboat, it won't be much like Hyper. I tire of auto-upload sites. The internet is FULL of them. I want more of a stable collective of the close friends I've made via Hyper. I'd like more of a... domain shared via subdomains or subfolders than the sort of incredibly flawed auto-upload system we've been working with for so long. There are so many auto-upload sites. I think a comics collective sort of thing would be more professional, sort of. We could each have our places to put our various comics and do, like, portfolios and stuff. And have a shared forum thing. Maybe?

This is just what I've been toying with. Feel free to tell me I'm stupid. Very Happy

!

Charil

I like the donutboat. A lot.

Forget that, I'm not going to say anything after all >.>

I still like the donutboat.

I personally am getting a job in like, two weeks, and was going to purchase my own domain with my first paycheck, so I... kinda sorta don't really mind if the old Hyper/any sort of comic uploader returns or not. Not like that really matters at all xD

darthmongoose

I may have mentioned before, I have NO money. Seriously. Really no money at all, so me purchasing a domain is kind of impossible.

Personally, I would still like to keep an auto-upload thing, because actually the only ones I know of that do this specifically for comics are Smackjeeves, which is full of arseholes, and Drunkduck.
On the other hand, I see where Donut is coming from, and she probably knows more about this than I do.
Hmmm.....
What about a site where you have to join the forums, introduce yourself and get approved to start uploading? Once approved, you get a little 'CV' page like thing instead of your common garden user profile, which links through to things you've done and uploaded. Comics, gallery of images, maybe even prose and poetry? Your 'CV' page could double as a homepage/artist's page and the front page for your webcomic, and would be customisable. Everybody's pages would be linked to the hub, where there would maybe be a front page, a forum and a (working) chat.

...I hope some of that made sense and sounded vaguely feasible.

...Oh, and I should not be put in charge of anything. Second in command I can handle, especially when I'm given specific orders to carry out, but my short attention span is a recipe for disaster if I'm in charge.

jesse

Kate, I think you just described exactly what a few of us have been pushing for for a long time. In other words, yes, perfect, let's do that.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea of being exclusive, even if I do like the idea of a comics collective. Why couldn't we have a site that welcomes and hosts everyone with a comics collective at its core? Sort of like Keenspace/Keenspot used to be. That way we could let the comic artists grow and improve or the comics gain in popularity to the point where we would invite them to join the collective. Does that make sense?

<3

-Jesse

ReiDavidson

I have monnies and a domain that I barely use, but it is my own personal site and I'd perfer not to have to use it. However, it sounds like the donutboat is ready for docking and since she really wants to do this, I shall board. D:

And I dunno... I think if we say no to sprite comics, doujinshi, and porn, we'd be like DD without those things, y'know?

The question is of coding. We're not talking about plugging in the old HC site into a new domain, we're talking about recreating the entire site. I mean, don't get me wrong, I took two web design classes and I can make a cool looking site, but as for knowing how to make the autoupload forms work? I don't. If Oub would get online so I can tell here where we are, we would have a good content supervisor, right?

So maybe before we go too far, let's work on basics.

It's Donut's site (probably), so therefore the name with be Divine Comickry. And therefore no matter what we discuss she gets the final say.

Personally, I like the idea of being an elitist community who picks to upload your comic, not the other way around. But that's going to be a lot of work for a lot of time because not everyone who graces us is going to know enough HTML or CSS or whatever to upload their own comic, which means we'd have to.

An auto-upload site would be a lot of work in the beginning to figure out the coding (since I'm not sure if Rainy will help us or not...? Not that I doubt you Rainy, but I probably offended you with all this bashing of Coby, so I'm no longer sure. Not to mention you may not have time to do any of this.). But once it was done, it would just be a matter of upkeep. Making sure the comics don't break the TOS, fixing bugs, etc.

Being an elitist community would mean we'd have to be willing to hurt a lot of feelings by rejecting people and saying their not good enough. Which I don't know that any of us has the heart to do.

But being auto-upload means we'll have people who make comics that are about things we hate or that are just plain stupid.

There are several pros and cons and we also need to know how everyone can help. All I can do is create pretty navigation and images and maybe help with some of the HTML.

melonman

i'd be for it! I'd even pitch in with costs when i have a steady income and whatnot if it was needed.

I've actually had the same idea for ages, i just didn't really think anyone would be into it.

and i like your idea jesse. in a way it could be seen as elitist... but... actually I'm kind of elitist so i don't really care.

but as long as we can find some way of dealing with newcomers needs. because with newcomers come a demand for more space and whatnot... but that can probably be dealt with later when we are actually sure this is a for sure thing.

I really think jesse kind of culminated the ideas really well. so i say woot for jesse's idea sandwich.

EDIT: rei, i can detach myself from things very easily, so i could be the one to tell people there not good enough.

also html wise we could just set up a bunch of templates for people for their home page. with some super easy instructions on uploading and whatnot. or use an HTML wizard sorta thing, kinda like H-C had for it's sub domains

darthmongoose

With regards to the elitism thing, I'm not sure I like just telling people they suck, but let's just say there has to be a minimum level of EFFORT put into any comic we allow on the site and a clearly defined set of rules on content and will be given a look over by a review panel.

Something like:

No RIPPED sprites. Original pixel art comics are allowed.
No stick figures/talking circles drawn in MSPaint.
Cut and Paste comics would be viewed on a case-by-case basis dependant mostly on writing quality, how repetitive they are etc.
If pages are large enough to cause double scrollbar action on a 800x600 rez, we won't allow them to upload until they size down.
No pornographic content/hentai. Limited or partial nudity is allowed for storyline freedom, at the discretion of the 'panel'.
Text in the comic must be legible.
If a comic is blatantly offensive for whatever reason, panel members can veto it.

Comics that don't pass will be told precisely what they would have to change in order to get on the site, ie. 'please size down your pages and either type your text or write more neatly', or 'Sorry, we have a blanket policy against sprite comic submissions'.

Kxela

i agree with all of the above

and i can dish out 3 bucks a month like I've been doing :3

I think the problem we had at hyper was those inactive members.
The ones that dumped their comics once and pretty much never came back
to talk on the forums or even worse not update at all.

what we've discussed before was death threats... er, i mean
that system where inactive users get removed or something after
a certain amount of time or whatever. That should happen.

Or even before that, adding to what DM just said, there should be
some "I will definitely be active on this site so please let me in"
sorta contract thing for people wanting to join or something Razz

...
...
well, overall the new hyper has to be more...strict... i guess
and not so loose like it has been for the last four years or so.
Thats why I think hyper wasnt taken very seriously by people and
even its owner.

shenlun

melonman

where is donut the almighty.

she's kinda the one who would be buying the site. would she be able to afford the space for all these possible newcomers?

maybe we'll have to start off small and grow from there... because you know. tree's don't grow money on demand. in fact money is made from jean material. at least the Canadian and American bills.

that is all.

AluminiumDonut

I have a job and was there. WILL POST TONIGHT WHEN FREETIMES ARE HAVE.

darthmongoose

Sorry about this guys, but I'm going into the middle of the Lake District for about four days. I seriously doubt I'll be able to check mail or anything while out there, never mind post here.
I'll see what the situation is like when I get home, I guess. Sorry for going at an inopportune time, but parents planned this holiday ages ago and I have to go.

melonman

have a great time Darth! it'll be fine don't worry about it.

ReiDavidson

I don't think we should force forum participation, but I think if their comic has not updated for a month, we send them an email asking "Do you plan on updating this comic ever again?"

If they say no or do not respond in a week, we delete the comic. If they say yes, we ask again in another month.

We continue until the comic has reached fifty pages, after which time we just leave it alone.

You gotta remember, PA has gone on six month hiatuses but I always go back to it, so instant deletion doesn't seem fair. >.>;

I kinda wanna say no to sprite comics in general. But maybe that's bias talking.

Kxela

yeah thats what i meant as regarding forum activity...
if your on the forum regularly then you can pass with not having updated
for whatever amount of time cause we know you're alive and are
participating Razz

so forum members wont really be sent that
"update your comic NOW" email ^_^;

ReiDavidson

Oh. Yeah that's a good idea. XD

AluminiumDonut

okay, if you guys can actually figure out the coding or find someone to figure out the coding for an auto upload thing then you can ttly do it on my webspace. in the meantime if anyone wants a subdomain or something they can ask me <3 because i really just want to share this with my friends.

domain get is friday.

ReiDavidson

But... If not everyone goes to Donut's site we're all still going to hang out here... right? ;^;

melonman

i don't see why not.

darthmongoose

Hi! I'm back! Really tired and have enormous backlog of Devart, webcomics, email etc. to get through ughhhhh.
Hyper still not up...not amazingly amazed.

Yeah, you guys can hang out here for as long as you need. Feel free to use any parts of the forum you like, and you can request new bits of the forum if you want them.

Donuts, contact my buddy Paul. I seem to remember I gave you his msn a while back. He's a freaking amazing coder if you can motivate him.

ReiDavidson

I'll help as much as I can but I'm no coder...

shenlun

I'm not particularly code savvy either, but I'd love to help out however I can.

melonman

if i could somehow get my brother to do junk. he could code a bit. he's not to shabby.

ReiDavidson

With out powers combined we are...

Not captain planet! D:

darthmongoose

Thank goodness for that. Captain Planet is creepy. What made him really weird when I was a kid was that he looked an awful lot like a blue-skinned version of British children's nature and conservation show presenter, Chris Packham. Obviously as a child, I was totally unaware that this was purely coincidental, and wondered why in the world anybody would base a superhero on a children's presenter with a speech impediment (he said 'R's as 'W's).
...Also, did anybody else feel sorry for the guy with the power of 'heart'? I always thought 'geez, that's the suckiest power ever!' when I was little.

melonman

What ho! pip pip, tra la!. i never watched captain planet. i just liked darkwing duck. :3 lets all be darkwing duck instead.

darthmongoose

Darkwing Duck was RADCORE. I wonder if they have it on TVlinks....?

shenlun

Darkwing Duck is one of those timeless cartoons that I remember all the cast vividly... but none of the plot.

melonman

Charil

I remember watching the theme song to Darkwing Duck, but nothing else.

Because that's what I did as a kid. I watched theme songs and then I ignored the television while the actual show was on. And then I watched the TV Guide channel to see if any shows with good theme songs would be coming on.

I still do that sometimes.

AluminiumDonut

okay domain get delayed a little due to the fact that stuff costs money

DARKWING DUCK WAS AMAZING. ;0;

melonman

ReiDavidson

ReiDavidson

I watched TailSpin and Animaniacs. :3

Kxela

hyper's down but I'm still being charged for
ad-less hosting D:

Rainy help!

i asked Coby but she didnt know a thing.
wow. I knew she was clueless but this
clueless? not even knowing hyper had web hosting O.o"

darthmongoose

Crap. I'd forgotten I'm still paying for my webspace on there! I'll try to get onto Coby, but I dunno how much luck I'll have...

Oubliette

Heh, lucky for me, I wasn't paying for web hosting - because right now I am broke.

Don't suppose anyone would want to buy one of my kidneys?

AluminiumDonut

okay, so, webdomain is going to cost about twice what i had hoped.

do- domain in a paycheck or two, hopefully. A GIRL HAS TO EAT, YOU KNOW. AND HAVE BOOKS. AND T-SHIRTS AND oh i am horrible with my money.

Oubliette

A girl also has to have kidneys!

AluminiumDonut

IF I AM EVER IN NEED OF KIDNEYS, yours will be the first i consider to buy.

jesse

ARG. One day we'll have a comics website that won't collapse due to owner neglect!

Sorry I've been gone, guys. No intertrons! I'm getting them soon.

<3

-Jesse

melonman

yes, owner neglect. our true enemy, foe, nemesis and other words that mean apposing man and/or force.

one day we will strike against Owner Neglect and take back a peace of the internet for ourselves!

jesse

You're too young to remember DL Comics, Milan, but it's sort of ominous how we've had two comics sites go down the same way.

<3

-Jesse

Oubliette

I'm sure more than two comic sites have gone down the same way.

jesse

Yes, but not ones I've been a member of.

<3

-Jesse

AluminiumDonut

whenever people type DL, I can only think of the character from Heroes who, hey, boring storyline.

Kxela

Rainy

Aw honey let me go refund it !

And I'll do what I can on canceling that!